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		<title>By: Debbie G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think its fair to have a lack of or no sympathy for her, no mother deserves to have a child taken from them, i dont agree with them leaving their children all the time, especially on the night that maddy was taken, in my view you should never leave your children in a hotel (or anywhere) unaccompanied while you go out and enjoy yourself, i do believe they played a part in the disappearance simply by leaving the children unaccompanied, but i do think they need compassion for their loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think its fair to have a lack of or no sympathy for her, no mother deserves to have a child taken from them, i dont agree with them leaving their children all the time, especially on the night that maddy was taken, in my view you should never leave your children in a hotel (or anywhere) unaccompanied while you go out and enjoy yourself, i do believe they played a part in the disappearance simply by leaving the children unaccompanied, but i do think they need compassion for their loss.</p>
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		<title>By: lesroys</title>
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		<dc:creator>lesroys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion, as a casual observer.

Kate McCann has never been able to cope with motherhood and raising her young children and never will be.  She will always need someone else to look after them.  Ditto her husband - incapable of child rearing - although I think in his case he just can&#039;t be bothered.

Ever see people on holiday in &quot;non-family friendly&quot; places with their young children?  These adults go so THEY can relax and let their hair down, go to restaurants and go clubbing, spend their days shopping and sunbathing - without a single thought for their children.  At least the McCanns chose a Mark Warner resort, but parents choose Mark Warner and similar &quot;family-friendly&quot; resorts so they can have virtually round-the-clock childcare while they play tennis and jetski.  And the main feature of Mark Warner is the &quot;dinner out&quot; creche which guests can leave their children in so they can go out and get drunk.  The McCanns probably chose Mark Warner for this feature, yet did not avail themselves of it.  Which I will NEVER understand.

Having said that, maybe Kate McCann suffers from clinical depression.  I know something about that and it is a disease that just doesn&#039;t take hold when tragedy strikes.  By definition, &quot;clinical depression&quot; means &quot;long-term&quot;, i.e. she would have suffered from the disease for many years, probably since long before her children were born, if indeed she is a sufferer.  Gerry McCann might also suffer from a form of manic depression, which would explain his highs and lows.  As a sufferer myself, I would cut any sufferer quite a lot of slack.

It is estimated that nearly a quarter of the world&#039;s population suffers from some form of &quot;mental disease&quot; from the mildest forms of depression to the scariest forms of schizophrenia and psychoses which end in violence.  So if either or both of these parents are sufferers of any form of depression (which is, I remind you, pure speculation), then they share that with nearly a billion other people.  It would, however, go a long way towards explaining their seeming difficulty in coping with raising young children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion, as a casual observer.</p>
<p>Kate McCann has never been able to cope with motherhood and raising her young children and never will be.  She will always need someone else to look after them.  Ditto her husband &#8211; incapable of child rearing &#8211; although I think in his case he just can&#8217;t be bothered.</p>
<p>Ever see people on holiday in &#8220;non-family friendly&#8221; places with their young children?  These adults go so THEY can relax and let their hair down, go to restaurants and go clubbing, spend their days shopping and sunbathing &#8211; without a single thought for their children.  At least the McCanns chose a Mark Warner resort, but parents choose Mark Warner and similar &#8220;family-friendly&#8221; resorts so they can have virtually round-the-clock childcare while they play tennis and jetski.  And the main feature of Mark Warner is the &#8220;dinner out&#8221; creche which guests can leave their children in so they can go out and get drunk.  The McCanns probably chose Mark Warner for this feature, yet did not avail themselves of it.  Which I will NEVER understand.</p>
<p>Having said that, maybe Kate McCann suffers from clinical depression.  I know something about that and it is a disease that just doesn&#8217;t take hold when tragedy strikes.  By definition, &#8220;clinical depression&#8221; means &#8220;long-term&#8221;, i.e. she would have suffered from the disease for many years, probably since long before her children were born, if indeed she is a sufferer.  Gerry McCann might also suffer from a form of manic depression, which would explain his highs and lows.  As a sufferer myself, I would cut any sufferer quite a lot of slack.</p>
<p>It is estimated that nearly a quarter of the world&#8217;s population suffers from some form of &#8220;mental disease&#8221; from the mildest forms of depression to the scariest forms of schizophrenia and psychoses which end in violence.  So if either or both of these parents are sufferers of any form of depression (which is, I remind you, pure speculation), then they share that with nearly a billion other people.  It would, however, go a long way towards explaining their seeming difficulty in coping with raising young children.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah_05</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah_05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with you xx</description>
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		<title>By: elsie1912</title>
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		<dc:creator>elsie1912</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate is depressed?....i don&#039;t think so.
i work in a psychiatric ward....believe me when a person is depressed they just could NOT be bothered with anything. all they want to do is lie in bed and stay away from everybody. they would not bother about putting on make, as usually they let themselves go, not keeping a tidy appearance. it takes a great deal of effort even for some of them to wash. 
Kate has looked tidy and well kempt since the day poor Maddy disappeared.
FAITH.....no  Dave is not insinuating that all mothers who have nannies dont care for their children, don&#039;t be so stupid woman....but most women who have nannies as they go out to work FULL TIME.....and the time they do spend with their kids are quality time.
BULLDOG...well said about the twins.....what a life they have. poor wee things, they would be more loved and looked after if they were back home with relatives who want to spend time with them.
and now they are &quot;in need&quot; of a holiday..poor wee things.....not!!!
i wonder what Maddy is in need of?.........decent parents!!
when those twins grow up and find out why their big sister disappeared, i wonder what they will think......mind you they will probably been brainwashed by then to realise it wasn&#039;t really Mummy and Daddys&#039; fault.......EVERYONE BUT EVERYONE....leaves their kids alone!!!!......not!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate is depressed?&#8230;.i don&#8217;t think so.<br />
i work in a psychiatric ward&#8230;.believe me when a person is depressed they just could NOT be bothered with anything. all they want to do is lie in bed and stay away from everybody. they would not bother about putting on make, as usually they let themselves go, not keeping a tidy appearance. it takes a great deal of effort even for some of them to wash.<br />
Kate has looked tidy and well kempt since the day poor Maddy disappeared.<br />
FAITH&#8230;..no  Dave is not insinuating that all mothers who have nannies dont care for their children, don&#8217;t be so stupid woman&#8230;.but most women who have nannies as they go out to work FULL TIME&#8230;..and the time they do spend with their kids are quality time.<br />
BULLDOG&#8230;well said about the twins&#8230;..what a life they have. poor wee things, they would be more loved and looked after if they were back home with relatives who want to spend time with them.<br />
and now they are &#8220;in need&#8221; of a holiday..poor wee things&#8230;..not!!!<br />
i wonder what Maddy is in need of?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;decent parents!!<br />
when those twins grow up and find out why their big sister disappeared, i wonder what they will think&#8230;&#8230;mind you they will probably been brainwashed by then to realise it wasn&#8217;t really Mummy and Daddys&#8217; fault&#8230;&#8230;.EVERYONE BUT EVERYONE&#8230;.leaves their kids alone!!!!&#8230;&#8230;not!!</p>
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		<title>By: puddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>puddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be honest, I wasnt sure it could get any worse. but Ive read your earlier question today about the couple&#039;s comments of &#039;needing a holiday&#039;, I now read that Kate is doing news and magazine interviews and I think a couple of days ago, I read that Kate actually used to work part time but employed a full time nanny. It is officially WORSE. As usual, you are right Dave, the pattern of parenting in this family is horrendous, I also wonder why they wanted children. They are absolutely selfish and self obsessed, their behaviour demonstrates this.
You are right about mothers and children in your response to lynn whatever, thats why I corrected you the other day about your &#039;maternal instinct&#039; comment. Just because a woman has a child, or a man fathers a child, it does not turn on a switch called &#039;love and care&#039;, you have to work at being a parent, something these 2 did not comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest, I wasnt sure it could get any worse. but Ive read your earlier question today about the couple&#8217;s comments of &#8216;needing a holiday&#8217;, I now read that Kate is doing news and magazine interviews and I think a couple of days ago, I read that Kate actually used to work part time but employed a full time nanny. It is officially WORSE. As usual, you are right Dave, the pattern of parenting in this family is horrendous, I also wonder why they wanted children. They are absolutely selfish and self obsessed, their behaviour demonstrates this.<br />
You are right about mothers and children in your response to lynn whatever, thats why I corrected you the other day about your &#8216;maternal instinct&#8217; comment. Just because a woman has a child, or a man fathers a child, it does not turn on a switch called &#8216;love and care&#8217;, you have to work at being a parent, something these 2 did not comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: LEXY</title>
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		<dc:creator>LEXY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave your following statements........

&quot;We all know that Gerry is a domineering a hole.&quot;
&quot;I know that because Gerry is such a vile man,&quot;

Where do you get this information from and who is &quot;we&quot;...
A negligent parent yes, but you know that he is vile, how is that.

Its a good job you didn&#039;t go into Law Dave, holes would appear everywhere if you were accusing or defending anyone.

Facts, not speculation..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave your following statements&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;We all know that Gerry is a domineering a hole.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I know that because Gerry is such a vile man,&#8221;</p>
<p>Where do you get this information from and who is &#8220;we&#8221;&#8230;<br />
A negligent parent yes, but you know that he is vile, how is that.</p>
<p>Its a good job you didn&#8217;t go into Law Dave, holes would appear everywhere if you were accusing or defending anyone.</p>
<p>Facts, not speculation&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: claire s</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Kate is struggling to look after the twins after what has happened, it is hardly surprising!  I don&#039;t know the McCanns and don&#039;t think they did the right thing in leaving the kids alone, but I don&#039;t think they deserve the constant criticism they are getting, do you not think they are going through hell every day??  I am sure you all lead totally perfect lives and I just hope nothing happens to any of you &#039;perfect people&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Kate is struggling to look after the twins after what has happened, it is hardly surprising!  I don&#8217;t know the McCanns and don&#8217;t think they did the right thing in leaving the kids alone, but I don&#8217;t think they deserve the constant criticism they are getting, do you not think they are going through hell every day??  I am sure you all lead totally perfect lives and I just hope nothing happens to any of you &#8216;perfect people&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: loubie lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>loubie lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me guess no kids of your own!!
Twins of that age are very difficult to deal with, I know this as I have twins, what would you prefer Kate to be doing dragging them out every where 
You Need to get a life! Madeleine is the only thing that matters in this situation, DON&#039;T YOU THINK!!
The reason they do all the media stuff is to keep Madeline in the lime light keep that sweet innocent little girls picture every where they can, I know full well I&#039;d be doing the same if someone had taken one of my twins. 
No they haven&#039;t been left alone, 
She is a GP what she earns and what she has is none of your business instead of being nasty try something a little more helpful to try and find Madeleine Safe!
Oh and the creche thing! We all send our kids off to nursery no none of us ever want to but in a situation like this it&#039;s probably the best place for them! Not having the vibes all day of their parents anguish, Children home in on this and it can make it extremely difficult as a parent as you wind each other up! Again I know this as having depression my daughter would wind me up as she knows how to get a rise out of me and when that anguish feeling is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me guess no kids of your own!!<br />
Twins of that age are very difficult to deal with, I know this as I have twins, what would you prefer Kate to be doing dragging them out every where<br />
You Need to get a life! Madeleine is the only thing that matters in this situation, DON&#8217;T YOU THINK!!<br />
The reason they do all the media stuff is to keep Madeline in the lime light keep that sweet innocent little girls picture every where they can, I know full well I&#8217;d be doing the same if someone had taken one of my twins.<br />
No they haven&#8217;t been left alone,<br />
She is a GP what she earns and what she has is none of your business instead of being nasty try something a little more helpful to try and find Madeleine Safe!<br />
Oh and the creche thing! We all send our kids off to nursery no none of us ever want to but in a situation like this it&#8217;s probably the best place for them! Not having the vibes all day of their parents anguish, Children home in on this and it can make it extremely difficult as a parent as you wind each other up! Again I know this as having depression my daughter would wind me up as she knows how to get a rise out of me and when that anguish feeling is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire One Belt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire One Belt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The McCanns didnt have children because they had a need and desire to have them, they had them because it was a logical step to take and probably everybody else in their social circle was having them or talking about having them.

The McCanns hit me as being cold and unfeeling - why go to the lengths of having IVF which often doesnt work and costs money, if despite only working 1.5 days a week you get a full time nanny.  Not only that but when you have to take the kids on holiday with you, you abandon them every night because they are a burden.

Kate McCann is in no way depressed.  Her and Gerry are attention seekers, Madeliene is barely given a mention from them anymore and the twins are certainly dumped where ever they can put them.  

I notice one of the first few answerers claims that Kate McCann is a career woman, if that was so then why didnt she go back to work full time not for less than two days a week?  She is simply selfish.

I dont want to have kids because I would resent my children for making me sacrifice things in life that I want.  I made the choice not to have children so that they dont need to suffer for this.  Maybe the McCanns should have realised this too instead of thinking their children would slot in nicely to their lives!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McCanns didnt have children because they had a need and desire to have them, they had them because it was a logical step to take and probably everybody else in their social circle was having them or talking about having them.</p>
<p>The McCanns hit me as being cold and unfeeling &#8211; why go to the lengths of having IVF which often doesnt work and costs money, if despite only working 1.5 days a week you get a full time nanny.  Not only that but when you have to take the kids on holiday with you, you abandon them every night because they are a burden.</p>
<p>Kate McCann is in no way depressed.  Her and Gerry are attention seekers, Madeliene is barely given a mention from them anymore and the twins are certainly dumped where ever they can put them.  </p>
<p>I notice one of the first few answerers claims that Kate McCann is a career woman, if that was so then why didnt she go back to work full time not for less than two days a week?  She is simply selfish.</p>
<p>I dont want to have kids because I would resent my children for making me sacrifice things in life that I want.  I made the choice not to have children so that they dont need to suffer for this.  Maybe the McCanns should have realised this too instead of thinking their children would slot in nicely to their lives!</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar's wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caesar's wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many women have nannies.  I&#039;d love one, if I could afford one!  Especially if I have three kids under 4, and two being twins.  There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a nanny.  Lucky Kate to be able to afford the help she needs.
I&#039;ve never felt that she didn&#039;t love or want her children.  And if she puts them in a creche while she struggles with her life at the moment, who could blame her?  I went through a divorce when my children were the same age and the intense emotions flying around are not always good for children.  
So give over, give everyone a break.
This whole thing is about a little girl who is missing.  Not about vengeance on the parents, who I am sure, are in the eyes of the authorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many women have nannies.  I&#8217;d love one, if I could afford one!  Especially if I have three kids under 4, and two being twins.  There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a nanny.  Lucky Kate to be able to afford the help she needs.<br />
I&#8217;ve never felt that she didn&#8217;t love or want her children.  And if she puts them in a creche while she struggles with her life at the moment, who could blame her?  I went through a divorce when my children were the same age and the intense emotions flying around are not always good for children.<br />
So give over, give everyone a break.<br />
This whole thing is about a little girl who is missing.  Not about vengeance on the parents, who I am sure, are in the eyes of the authorities.</p>
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