Yet has time to do several magazine interviews for the glossies.
Or is this her way of ‘working through the pain’.
Sorry but I have NO sympathy for Kate whatsoever.
It is well documented the fact she had a nanny to help her at home, even though she was hardly working herself at the time (how many parents can afford hired help apart from when its absolutely necessary like they need to return to work?)
She then abandoned her children on holidays.
After Maddy went missing, she then abandoned the twins in the creche. The very same place where they allegedly never wanted to leave the kids because they dont like leaving them in the hands of strangers.
This to me is a well established pattern of her either struggling to cope with her children or certainly at the least her not paying as much attention to her children as necessary. I wonder if she was ‘forced’ into the family situation by Gerry. We all know that Gerry is a domineering a hole.
Either way she is an adult with brains. Therefore my sympathy for her died when you can clearly see that this incidence with Maddy isnt just a one-off thing, she appears to have a long standing history of struggling to cope with her children, and to me it seems she is wallowing in self-pity for a situation that she caused.
And if she is so deeply depressed, how does she manage to pick herself up long enough to apply her make up and appear on several glossy magazines for next week?
I know that because Gerry is such a vile man, Kate has probably garnered some sympathy but the bottom line is she is just as much responsible for this incident as Gerry, and while she appears in glossy magazines telling ‘her side of the story’ while looking all glammed up, she shan’t be getting much sympathy for me.
Pepzi-Bandit – I cant afford a psychiatrist. Should I perhaps start up a fund?? Ive heard its very easy and the public can be quite gullible. All I need is the Sun and the Mirror behind me!
Lynn18050 – God you talk some $hit sometime. What is this statement?
“what you suggest is total rubbish, there is not a woman that can tell me they dont love their children.”
Uh, so I could never find a case in history where a mother not only doesn’t love her child but has actually KILLED her child? It happens all the friggen time Lyn! You truly know nothing about the world do you?
How about you look up the case recently where 3 tiny bodies were found in a womans home, or how about Susan Smith in the States who killed off her children so she could be with her boyfriend? Honestly Lyn, please dont try and out debate me, you will lose everytime.
Brunelscooby – Do you believe that Gerry and Kate should not have to face a judge for what they did to all 3 of their children. And if not, why not? The fact Kate is able to do interviews at all is amazing given that she should be preparing for a court appearance. When is Madeleine going to get some justice for those that let her down in her hour of need.
you should get help with this obsession of yours
Oh, Dave, you’re really going to rock the boat with this one – but I agree entirely. Wish I had the time to be so glammed up whilst my daughter was still missing.
Kate is a career woman and has little in the way of Maternal instincts ,I think she finds it hard being a Mum.
No sign of them returning to the UK yet then Dave. Thought not. Won’t come back ( if at all) thill they think its safe to do so.
Do you share these opinions with the outside world or stay indoors on answers all day?
You forgot the photo shoot in THE Tapas Bar with the twins three days after the disappearance Dave, I wouldn’t have gone near the place again, but, it beats cooking.
It is hard for some of us to accept that she would still be wanting to appear in the Womens magazines, and the Sunday supplements, but, it will get more money in to the fund so they can carry on, errr, searching? for their little girl, or sitting staring out to sea, or relaxing by the pool, or driving to and from the airport, or opening up packages of toys sent by mug, wellwishers, we really shoul only be thinking about Madeleine these days, let her parents carry on getting the cash in, asking questions embarrasses them and their supporters.
I agree. A full time nanny, yet Kate worked only 1 day a week? Her family have said she finds the kids hard work, hence the constant flow of relatives to help her.
I dont think the parents are actually used to looking after the kids, I imagine they have had to spend more time with the kids since Madeleine vanished, than they ever have before. Even taking into account the fact the kids are in the creche all day every day untill 5-30pm, then in bed by 7pm. While other kids are enjoying the coolness of a holiday-evening play or trip, the kids are cooped up in a room. Their day must be a lot shorter than most of the kids on holiday there. I feel so sad for them.
She is now trying to make us feel sorry for her, they have had some bad publicity, so now we have the depression, but she not depressed if you where, you would not get up in the morning, bother about how you look, and you would not give interviews, you just could not be bothered, she is not depressed, she never looked after the children before all this, she did not work many hours then, but had nannys, sent them to creches etc, sorry but these are facts, you have to feel for the twins also in all this, they should be at home not in a creche everyday in portugal
Why go through the pain of IVF if you don’t really want kids is it for the sake of posterity that they had them?
Yes, Kate does appear drained & depressed & miserable. The fact that she still agrees to do a magazine interview to keep her missing baby in the news, shows her love & committment to her child. You won’t see it. Oh no! not you! All you can see is what you want to see. Are you insinuating that all mothers who have a nanny to look after their children don’t care for their children? ‘cos thats what you’ve accused Kate of. Its immature & cheap to say the least.
You’ve led an onslaught against this family for months now & even if some part of you reasoned that spite against a grieving mother is wrong, you’d go ahead with your venom just to prove a point.
Who are you to insinuate that Gerry is vile & domineering?
Do you know him personally? or is this what you’ve got from your telly? And what on earth do you mean by “We all know” ??? Who the heck is “we all”??? Certainly not me & a bunch of other sane people who refuse to judge people the way you do.
Your disgusting reference that she “was forced into the family situation” only speaks of your own sordid mind.
You’ve lost it, completely.
Cos she is full of cons and scams and is making a living out of it.
This may all be true but I am not sure where it gets us in terms of finding out what happened to Maddy
dave s you really do need to see a psychiatrist , i can recommend a good one for you through where i work free of charge !! seriously its not normal to have such a obsession with kate about her lifestyle , and the anger you have seems to be growing on a daily basis , maybe you are the one suffering depression( people who are often carry on their day to day duties without letting others aware of it) time to get help i think for you , erm …i wonder what the psychiatrist would say about you after reading all of your posts!
You are as common as muck, obviously have never been around too much money I can understand that much from you b i t c h y comments, I’m seriously doubting you are employed, probably sponging off the government, no wait scratch that, you deserve every penny the state gives you.
you are probably unemployable
I just dont agree with a word you say, what the heck is wrong with having a nanny? I have tons of friends that have nannies, just because a nanny is there does not mean you are NOT involved with the children, and whilst we’re on the subject what wrong with having a cleaner?
if your bank account allows it , why not?
I know some very lovely people that are not uncaring about their children.
what you suggest is total rubbish, there is not a woman that can tell me they dont love their children.
you are jealous.
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I had no idea I was trying to “out debate you” I thought you asked a question and I gave my answer.
You think Gerry is “a vile man” and yet it is you who are hurling insults and abuse at people about whom, despite adding the gloss of what you present as facts to your ramblings, you actually know NOTHING!
The self-deception of the McCann bashers knows no bounds.
It never ceases to amaze me that whenever you have an account deleted (a regular occurrence, gosh wonder why that is?), your groupies troop dutifully out to defend the scurrilous garbage that is your currency. I’ve seen people claim that you “make good points”. I have not seen you make a single good point in all the posts of yours that I have read and this one is no exception.
can we not leave this now please. would you cope being shoved into media spotlight and having to stay there in order to keep maddys name in the news. What do you expect them to do, its all they have got left. i dont agree with them leaving the kids or some of the things they have done like meeting pope etc but we are all blowing this way out of proportion. Leave them alone now and fingers crossed they find that little girl.
misshighwater you want to see deception,, go to, read the HEADING in the latest news section, clck on it and and come back to me.
dave keep asking questions
Hi Dave S,
a mother first responsibility is to the children they bring into this world …everything else is secondary… even primitive animals will protect their young even to the death …Mrs. McCann didn’t do her job ..if she had she would never have left her children alone in the first place…I am sure she is suffering but I doubt she has suffered like her tiny daughter had/has and this child’s suffering can be laid at the woman’s feet..if she had been there with her children odds are this little girl would not be missing…if she had been there and someone came in and she fought the intruder and they still took this child..I would be very sympathetic to her grief ..but I can’t hardly find sympathy toward a woman that would leave children this age alone and in harms way with no protection to stuff her face and knock down a few….my sympathy is with Madeleine and her siblings…..
Everyone seems to think she is somehow a down-trodden little wife with no say in this matter. Sorry I think the opposite, I think they are two intelligent people who are sit down and make mutual and joint decisions together. If her mental state was unstable then there is absolutely no way that Gerry would keep going off on his campaign business. She is not couped up and zombied out on antidepressants or tranquillisers, she is jogging every day and she is fit in both mind and body.
I do think its a bit over the top, but they should be held to account for not looking after their kids
She may have a clinical depression bought on by the birth of her children. Any depression diagnosed in the 1st year after giving birth is technically post natal. It is a deep and disturbing depression and not to be belittled.
I don’t know Kate, I can’t make the observations needed to make such a diagnosis but looking at the information we do have it would certainly seem she has some issues.
The couple had to endure IVF – a long and heartbreaking process for some, to conceive all 3 children. After going for something so determinadly and being so sure you wanted kids it must be shattering IF symptoms of depression present themselves. Imagine putting so much energy into having kids only to not feel the ‘insant rush of love’ so many mothers gush about?
The couple seem very detached as parents. A lot of parents now-a-days don’t allow children to impact on their lives. I returned to work recently when my son was 18 months old and he goes to a private nursery 3 afternoons (about 4 hours tops) a week. I feel really guilty about this but it is good for me to be at work as I feel more like me again and the extra money is good – hence the last minute holidays etc! We managed without me working but it is nice to have the extra income.
There are many many professional families who take their kids to nursery. I have spoken to many and it is astounding the number of woman who had no intention of staying at home. They don’t need 2 executive salaries, they could make a few cut backs (one less 4×4 and things like that) and be very comfortable on one wage. But these woman were adamant they were going back to work as soon as possible. There are kids in that nursery who are there for 7.30am to 6pm at night 5 days a week. The staff see more of the kids than their parents. The parents are used to not looking after their own family. Scary isn’t it? Is it any wonder many mums like this don’t bond with their own kids or somply don’t know how to look after them as they have never had to?
Many of these mothers are also older and with multipiles so it would seem IVF was involved.
Woman can’t have it all – it is as simple as that. We have been lied to! Career and family – one is going to suffer. And striking a balance is really hard.
It would seem to me that Kate has struggled with becoming Mum and just mum. Working 1.5 days a week is fine and highly recommended if thats what it takes to make you feel more human but why have the nanny there all the time? Why do you need your mum to get your tea?
Why go on a FAMILY holiday and leave the kids in a creche all the time?
I just don’t get it….
I’m sorry, but i think Kate is a drip, i used to be a nanny and my employer was just like her. She would drive me round the bend.
I think they just want one long summer holiday, paid for by stupid people, that contributed, without thinking. Be far better to make it a proper charity for ALL missing children. I have always felt that Ben Needhams mum never got enough help, in trying to find him.
Many women have nannies. I’d love one, if I could afford one! Especially if I have three kids under 4, and two being twins. There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a nanny. Lucky Kate to be able to afford the help she needs.
I’ve never felt that she didn’t love or want her children. And if she puts them in a creche while she struggles with her life at the moment, who could blame her? I went through a divorce when my children were the same age and the intense emotions flying around are not always good for children.
So give over, give everyone a break.
This whole thing is about a little girl who is missing. Not about vengeance on the parents, who I am sure, are in the eyes of the authorities.
The McCanns didnt have children because they had a need and desire to have them, they had them because it was a logical step to take and probably everybody else in their social circle was having them or talking about having them.
The McCanns hit me as being cold and unfeeling – why go to the lengths of having IVF which often doesnt work and costs money, if despite only working 1.5 days a week you get a full time nanny. Not only that but when you have to take the kids on holiday with you, you abandon them every night because they are a burden.
Kate McCann is in no way depressed. Her and Gerry are attention seekers, Madeliene is barely given a mention from them anymore and the twins are certainly dumped where ever they can put them.
I notice one of the first few answerers claims that Kate McCann is a career woman, if that was so then why didnt she go back to work full time not for less than two days a week? She is simply selfish.
I dont want to have kids because I would resent my children for making me sacrifice things in life that I want. I made the choice not to have children so that they dont need to suffer for this. Maybe the McCanns should have realised this too instead of thinking their children would slot in nicely to their lives!
Let me guess no kids of your own!!
Twins of that age are very difficult to deal with, I know this as I have twins, what would you prefer Kate to be doing dragging them out every where
You Need to get a life! Madeleine is the only thing that matters in this situation, DON’T YOU THINK!!
The reason they do all the media stuff is to keep Madeline in the lime light keep that sweet innocent little girls picture every where they can, I know full well I’d be doing the same if someone had taken one of my twins.
No they haven’t been left alone,
She is a GP what she earns and what she has is none of your business instead of being nasty try something a little more helpful to try and find Madeleine Safe!
Oh and the creche thing! We all send our kids off to nursery no none of us ever want to but in a situation like this it’s probably the best place for them! Not having the vibes all day of their parents anguish, Children home in on this and it can make it extremely difficult as a parent as you wind each other up! Again I know this as having depression my daughter would wind me up as she knows how to get a rise out of me and when that anguish feeling is there.
If Kate is struggling to look after the twins after what has happened, it is hardly surprising! I don’t know the McCanns and don’t think they did the right thing in leaving the kids alone, but I don’t think they deserve the constant criticism they are getting, do you not think they are going through hell every day?? I am sure you all lead totally perfect lives and I just hope nothing happens to any of you ‘perfect people’
Dave your following statements……..
“We all know that Gerry is a domineering a hole.”
“I know that because Gerry is such a vile man,”
Where do you get this information from and who is “we”…
A negligent parent yes, but you know that he is vile, how is that.
Its a good job you didn’t go into Law Dave, holes would appear everywhere if you were accusing or defending anyone.
Facts, not speculation……….
to be honest, I wasnt sure it could get any worse. but Ive read your earlier question today about the couple’s comments of ‘needing a holiday’, I now read that Kate is doing news and magazine interviews and I think a couple of days ago, I read that Kate actually used to work part time but employed a full time nanny. It is officially WORSE. As usual, you are right Dave, the pattern of parenting in this family is horrendous, I also wonder why they wanted children. They are absolutely selfish and self obsessed, their behaviour demonstrates this.
You are right about mothers and children in your response to lynn whatever, thats why I corrected you the other day about your ‘maternal instinct’ comment. Just because a woman has a child, or a man fathers a child, it does not turn on a switch called ‘love and care’, you have to work at being a parent, something these 2 did not comprehend.
Kate is depressed?….i don’t think so.
i work in a psychiatric ward….believe me when a person is depressed they just could NOT be bothered with anything. all they want to do is lie in bed and stay away from everybody. they would not bother about putting on make, as usually they let themselves go, not keeping a tidy appearance. it takes a great deal of effort even for some of them to wash.
Kate has looked tidy and well kempt since the day poor Maddy disappeared.
FAITH…..no Dave is not insinuating that all mothers who have nannies dont care for their children, don’t be so stupid woman….but most women who have nannies as they go out to work FULL TIME…..and the time they do spend with their kids are quality time.
BULLDOG…well said about the twins…..what a life they have. poor wee things, they would be more loved and looked after if they were back home with relatives who want to spend time with them.
and now they are “in need” of a holiday..poor wee things…..not!!!
i wonder what Maddy is in need of?………decent parents!!
when those twins grow up and find out why their big sister disappeared, i wonder what they will think……mind you they will probably been brainwashed by then to realise it wasn’t really Mummy and Daddys’ fault…….EVERYONE BUT EVERYONE….leaves their kids alone!!!!……not!!
i agree with you xx
My opinion, as a casual observer.
Kate McCann has never been able to cope with motherhood and raising her young children and never will be. She will always need someone else to look after them. Ditto her husband – incapable of child rearing – although I think in his case he just can’t be bothered.
Ever see people on holiday in “non-family friendly” places with their young children? These adults go so THEY can relax and let their hair down, go to restaurants and go clubbing, spend their days shopping and sunbathing – without a single thought for their children. At least the McCanns chose a Mark Warner resort, but parents choose Mark Warner and similar “family-friendly” resorts so they can have virtually round-the-clock childcare while they play tennis and jetski. And the main feature of Mark Warner is the “dinner out” creche which guests can leave their children in so they can go out and get drunk. The McCanns probably chose Mark Warner for this feature, yet did not avail themselves of it. Which I will NEVER understand.
Having said that, maybe Kate McCann suffers from clinical depression. I know something about that and it is a disease that just doesn’t take hold when tragedy strikes. By definition, “clinical depression” means “long-term”, i.e. she would have suffered from the disease for many years, probably since long before her children were born, if indeed she is a sufferer. Gerry McCann might also suffer from a form of manic depression, which would explain his highs and lows. As a sufferer myself, I would cut any sufferer quite a lot of slack.
It is estimated that nearly a quarter of the world’s population suffers from some form of “mental disease” from the mildest forms of depression to the scariest forms of schizophrenia and psychoses which end in violence. So if either or both of these parents are sufferers of any form of depression (which is, I remind you, pure speculation), then they share that with nearly a billion other people. It would, however, go a long way towards explaining their seeming difficulty in coping with raising young children.
I dont think its fair to have a lack of or no sympathy for her, no mother deserves to have a child taken from them, i dont agree with them leaving their children all the time, especially on the night that maddy was taken, in my view you should never leave your children in a hotel (or anywhere) unaccompanied while you go out and enjoy yourself, i do believe they played a part in the disappearance simply by leaving the children unaccompanied, but i do think they need compassion for their loss.